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If you have experienced FFB loss after Patch 2, please can you fill out the below and help us look into this and find a resolution:

Windows Version:
Steering Wheel:
Steering Wheel Firmware Version:
Pedals:
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc):
Online/Offline or Both:
Car Used:
Track Used:

If you can reproduce this on command, please provide a set of steps (Car/Track Used, Steps taken in menu to trigger this etc):
Do you have any Tracelogs: [you can find log files in userdata/log and select most recent file after the bug is found (e.g. trace_2024_02_08_12_04_32-21)]
 
Hi, i still get a lot of FFB losses, like every 10-30s, which is better than before the hotfix.
I had no problem pre-patch

Windows Version: 11
Steering Wheel: Fanatec csl dd
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: 455
Pedals: Fanatec csl elite LC
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): None
Online/Offline or Both: Both
Car Used: Any
Track Used: Any

Just for a bit more info, here is my pc specs
cpu: 7800x3d
gpu: rx 6800
ram: 32go

I've attatched a log where we can see a lot of : "Pausing Force Feedback because of slow update rate."
 

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Bonjour
J'ai failli perdre un poigné en sortant des stands. le volant s'affole je ne peux plus conduire

Version Windows :11
Volant : Simucube 2 pro
Version du micrologiciel du volant :2023.2- 1.3.55
Pédales : heusinkveld Ultimate
Tout autre périphérique USB utilisé avec le jeu ( Freins à main, chronomètres, etc.) :
En ligne/hors ligne ou les deux : 2
Voiture utilisée : Ferrari GTE ou Hyper
Piste utilisée : Spa et les autres....
 
#55 said:
Not only I lose FFB, but I also can't use the FFB reset button, it says "force feedback resetted" on the bottom right, but it doesn't reset nothing.
Windows Version: 11
Steering Wheel: T150
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: 35
Pedals: TLCM
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): none
Online/Offline or Both: both
Car Used: any
Track Used: any
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Windows Version: 11
Steering Wheel: Thrustmaster TS-PC with Formula Wheel Add-On Ferrari SF1000 Edition
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: Base v13 - Wheel v6.27
Pedals: T-LCM Pedals
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc):
Online/Offline or Both: both
Car Used: any
Track Used: any

Small holes in the FFB, especially annoying when cornering, due to a slow update of the system, which interrupts the connection with the steering wheel for a few moments.
 
Windows Version: 11 23H2
Steering Wheel: Thrustmaster TMX
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: Package 1.TTRS.2024 Firmware: 20 Driver: 2.11.57.0
Pedals: Thrustmaster T3PA
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): Connected but not configured in game T.Flight Hotas X joystick
Online/Offline or Both: Online, I haven't tried offline.
Car Used: GTE Porsche, LMH Peugeot
Track Used: Sebring, Monza, Le Mans, Bahrain

If you can reproduce this on command, please provide a set of steps (Car/Track Used, Steps taken in menu to trigger this etc):
When it happens it seems to happen when going out again after returning to garage in one session during which other players connected while I was on track, or on session change during an event. It also happens when returning to main menu (and attempting another event/practice).
As a workaround I discovered I can reboot the wheel while in game and then press the reset FFB key to get back FFB.
FFB remains disabled after quiting LMU, the only way is to reboot the wheel.
Do you have any Tracelogs: see some attached
 

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Windows Version: Win10
Steering Wheel: T150
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: 02/09/2024,02.11.57.00
Pedals:TP3A Pro
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc):None
Online/Offline or Both: Offline
Car Used: Any
Track Used: Any
Can reproduce by exiting track several times or changing venue two or three times. Loose all FFB either in garage or while exiting pitlane. Have to restart wheelbase to recover.
 

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#55 said:
If you have experienced FFB loss after Patch 2, please can you fill out the below and help us look into this and find a resolution:

Windows Version:
Steering Wheel:
Steering Wheel Firmware Version:
Pedals:
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc):
Online/Offline or Both:
Car Used:
Track Used:

If you can reproduce this on command, please provide a set of steps (Car/Track Used, Steps taken in menu to trigger this etc):
Do you have any Tracelogs: [you can find log files in userdata/log and select most recent file after the bug is found (e.g. trace_2024_02_08_12_04_32-21)]
Click to expand...
Windows Version:11
Steering Wheel:TS PC Racer
Steering Wheel Firmware Version:13.00 R7
Pedals:T-LCM Pedals
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc):
Online/Offline or Both:eek:nline
Car Used:ferrari gt
Track Used:lemans
 
Windows Version: 10 Home
Steering Wheel: Fanatec csl dd
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: 454
Pedals: ClubSport Pedals V3
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): Logitec controller
Online/Offline or Both: Both
Car Used: LMP2
Track Used: Monza turn 3

If you can reproduce this on command, please provide a set of steps (Car/Track Used, Steps taken in menu to trigger this etc):
This was happening with the LMP2 turn 3, the fast right between the chicanes, FFB drops for a split second on most laps and also in a couple other spots, but not as noticeable.

Do you have any Tracelogs: Attached
 

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ChrisB said:
Windows Version: 10 Home
Steering Wheel: Fanatec csl dd
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: 454
Pedals: ClubSport Pedals V3
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): Logitec controller
Online/Offline or Both: Both
Car Used: LMP2
Track Used: Monza turn 3

If you can reproduce this on command, please provide a set of steps (Car/Track Used, Steps taken in menu to trigger this etc):
This was happening with the LMP2 turn 3, the fast right between the chicanes, FFB drops for a split second on most laps and also in a couple other spots, but not as noticeable.

Do you have any Tracelogs: Attached
Click to expand...
Not saying it's the case for sure, but if you're getting it at the same spot(s) on a track, try and check if it's a bump.

(Ickx / No name at Spa is a great example of this)
 
This game sucks, I've tried it again tonight and in the middle of the race the FFB is lost again and again at every moment, if it continues like this I'll uninstall it and dedicate myself to other simulators, I'm tired of riding on track and never enjoy a race in conditions, umpteenth abandonment for the same reason as always.
 
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Tomy said:
This game sucks, I,ve tried it again tonight and in the middle of the race the FFB is lost again and again at every moment, if it continues like this I'll uninstall it and dedicate myself to other simulators, I'm tired of riding on track and never enjoy a race in conditions, umpteenth abandonment for the same reason as always.
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There's an "ffb-pub" beta version selectable on steam, you could try that and see if it helps.

That aside, your trace file might help to work out what's going wrong.
 
After testing patch 3 and being for more than an hour at Sebring with the Oreca LMP2, and even running a full race, I have not had any problem with the FFB. I had to increase quite a lot the steering wheel force, but then I saw that they have normalized the FFB force among all cars and that precisely in the Oreca they have lowered it by 36%.

That's right, because the game has fantastic physics, FFB and feel, but bugs can ruin the whole experience.
 
Windows Version: Windows 10 22H2
Steering Wheel: Fanatec CSW 2.5
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: Wheel Base 693, Wheel Base Motor 22, Steering Wheel 47, PC Driver 456,
Pedals: Asetek Invicta
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc):
Online/Offline or Both: Offline
Car Used: LMP2
Track Used: Portimao

Just randomly felt that FFB switched off and on again - very odd sensation.
No pattern to it, was random, maybe 2 or 3 times in an hours race (sorry 50min race - gave up after 50mins after being punted by the AI yet again).
 
Emilian Huminiuc said:
Windows Version: 11 23H2
Steering Wheel: Thrustmaster TMX
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: Package 1.TTRS.2024 Firmware: 20 Driver: 2.11.57.0
Pedals: Thrustmaster T3PA
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): Connected but not configured in game T.Flight Hotas X joystick
Online/Offline or Both: Online, I haven't tried offline.
Car Used: GTE Porsche, LMH Peugeot
Track Used: Sebring, Monza, Le Mans, Bahrain

If you can reproduce this on command, please provide a set of steps (Car/Track Used, Steps taken in menu to trigger this etc):
When it happens it seems to happen when going out again after returning to garage in one session during which other players connected while I was on track, or on session change during an event. It also happens when returning to main menu (and attempting another event/practice).
As a workaround I discovered I can reboot the wheel while in game and then press the reset FFB key to get back FFB.
FFB remains disabled after quiting LMU, the only way is to reboot the wheel.
Do you have any Tracelogs: see some attached
Click to expand...
Seems this bug is back after patch#3. As if the fixes in patch#2 hotfix#2 and 3 were undone.
 

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  • trace_2024_04_17_21_12_46-31.txt
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Windows Version:11
Steering Wheel: Moza R21
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: V1.2.2.15
Pedals: He sprint
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): No
Online/Offline or Both: Online
Car Used: C8R GTE
Track Used: Monza

Can't upload trace file as too large :(

trace_2024_04_20_18_29_32-25.txt

drive.google.com drive.google.com

FFB cut out mid race while doing the 2.4hrs of monza. cut out just before ascari over an hour into the race.
 
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#55 said:
If you have experienced FFB loss after Patch 2, please can you fill out the below and help us look into this and find a resolution:

Windows Version:11 Pro
Steering Wheel:MOZA R21 / GS V2P GT Wheel
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: R21 1.2.2.15 GS V2 1.2.1.6
Pedals: MOZA CRP Pedals 1.2.1.7
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc):
Online/Offline or Both:
Car Used: GTE Porche 911 RSR-19
Track Used:Monza

If you can reproduce this on command, please provide a set of steps (Car/Track Used, Steps taken in menu to trigger this etc):
Do you have any Tracelogs: [you can find log files in userdata/log and select most recent file after the bug is found (e.g. trace_2024_02_08_12_04_32-21)]
Click to expand...
 

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I'm still having ffb drops every 5s or so on single player, it's a bit better online, but not ideal.
Sometimes it's related to a hitch in framerate, sometimes not.
nemesur said:
Hi, i still get a lot of FFB losses, like every 10-30s, which is better than before the hotfix.
I had no problem pre-patch

Windows Version: 11
Steering Wheel: Fanatec csl dd
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: 455
Pedals: Fanatec csl elite LC
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): None
Online/Offline or Both: Both
Car Used: Any
Track Used: Any

Just for a bit more info, here is my pc specs
cpu: 7800x3d
gpu: rx 6800
ram: 32go

I've attatched a log where we can see a lot of : "Pausing Force Feedback because of slow update rate."
Click to expand...
 

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  • trace_2024_05_02_11_13_54-68.txt
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Windows Version: 11
Steering Wheel: Thrustmaster T818
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: Fw: 6.01 (CAN:2.12) Driver: 2.11.57.0
Pedals: T-LCM Pedals
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): No
Online/Offline or Both: Offline (not tried online)
Car Used: Ferrari 499P & Porsche 963 (not tried others)
Track Used: le mans & Fuji (not tried others)

Can't reproduce every time, but happens frequently. Wheel becomes unresponsive for a few seconds after about 15 mins, it then starts working again but without FFB.
Log attached
 

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Windows Version:11
Steering Wheel: Moza R21
Steering Wheel Firmware Version: V1.2.5.29
Pedals: He sprint
Any other USB devices used with the game (Handbrakes, LapTimers etc): No
Online/Offline or Both: Both
Car Used: Aston GTE
Track Used: Le mans
 

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